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Hi Vikram, yes I agree, iontophoresis is the best hyperhidrosis treatment in the long run! Your account of your treatment history is very interesting. I have always thought that bad type of tap water can be “fixed” by adding supplements to it, but seeing how that didn't help in your case, I guess I was wrong.
I never had issues with pain, but it's interesting that your iontophoresis for hyperhidrosis was inefficient when your fingers hurt… But I agree on the seasons change – I also have varying success with iontophoresis throughout the seasons, and changing voltage doesn't seem to help me – sometimes I am forced to cope with sweaty hands no matter what I do.
Did you use different iontophoresis devices, or did a single device serve you for all these years?
I am sorry, but I don't think that this is normal, especially if the shocks are as intense as you describe them to be (like jolting your hands out of the water).
Can you set the current to lower settings, or is everything completely pre-set and automatic, as you describe it? Iontophoresis for sweaty hands can cause some pain if your skin is damaged in places, or if your settings are too strong, but I don't remember hearing about genuine shocks.
If it is of any comfort, though, I am pretty sure that these small shocks shouldn't be particularly harmful, but I can imagine that they might get more dangerous if they get stronger or if they happen all the time. What areas do you treat with iontophoresis? Do you only have sweaty hands or is your hyperhidrosis spread to other areas as well? I wonder if you would experience the same type of shocks during an iontophoresis treatment for feet…
And your question is not long, feel free to ask more stuff! 🙂
First of all, I don't think it's possible to say that iontophoresis for sweaty hands is the single best way to treat excessive sweat on your palms. There is no general rule, no simple way to say that everyone's hyperhidrosis should be treated like this or like that. However, for many people, iontophoresis works great when used on sweaty hands.
Now, as far as I know, iontophoresis for hyperhidrosis works just the same whether your excessive sweat is triggered by anxiety or genetics or something entirely different. So, yes, you can use iontophoresis for sweaty hands even if they are caused by anxiety.
As for your question on anxiety medications – I really don't know. You should probably seek real medical help, and have a physician determine if medications would be the most efficient way to treat your anxiety and/or hyperhidrosis.
I hope this helped! (And please keep in mind that I'm not an expert.)
Hey Pavel, welcome aboard. 🙂
I am reacting to this because, believe it or not, I had the same dilemma once upon a time. 😀
In a nutshell – I found that it is the best to keep your iontophoresis water temperature at room temperature. With me, this is usually at 20°C – but it can also easily depend on the time of year and your own home.
Isn't cold water uncomfortable for your hands? Doesn't it hurt? In my opinion, you should use the water temperature that feels pleasant on your skin – not the one that chills you to the bone!
I do not know if the iontophoresis device itself plays a big role here… In any case, Fischer Galvanic is a good machine, so you should be good with it. 🙂
Uh I never heard of anyone overdosing on iontophoresis… I do know of some cases where people get “used” to the treatments, stop for a few weeks, then start again and blam – the results are back!
Still, you using this for what, a few weeks? That doesn't seem like a long enough time to get “used” to it.
Wait and see how it goes. Maybe the change of these last few days is actually triggered by your socks, diet, stress… Doesn't have to do with your Fischer.
First to answer your question – with practice. While your device is turned off, just take the plates, pour some water in and set your hands as if you were getting a treatment. Every part of your palms that usually sweats needs to be submerged into water! Experiment (pouring water in and out) until you get that perfect water level.
Then, pour the used water into a jug with measures and write down the amount. Now you'll know just how much water you need to pour into each plate/tub in the future. Et voila, problem solved!
Btw I remember you were complaining a few months back that your hands are sensitive and iontophoresis hurts. Are things better now?
I never had the need to run multiple iontophoresis treatments at the same time, but I do believe that you are unfortunately right – you would need 2 machines for what you described.
I imagine it would be clumsy to perform that. Why the need to treat all three areas at once? Just get one versatile device and then run one treatment for hands & feet together, and then one for underarms. Bottom line – you won't be doing these treatments on daily basis, so it's not going to take that much of your time as you maybe think it will.
I think Idromed is the smallest and the lightest one, but I can't tell for sure since I did not use it firsthand. What is the size of your budget? If you want to buy a top class iontophoresis device, it is probably going to be very expensive – maybe you can keep an eye on various ads to catch a second-hand one?
In general, any 1% hydrocortisone hand cream should be good! 🙂 I suggest you try several creams and find the one that works best for you.
First get the cream, then pause with iontophoresis treatments (and maybe even antiperspirants) until your skin heals. Use the cream regularly and resume the treatments. I believe the regular use of a cream or hand lotion should protect your hands from damage in the future. Good luck!
Also, try adjusting the settings of your iontophoresis machine. Ideally, you should feel no need to use antiperspirants on your hands.
Heyya, please toss a look at my review of MD-1a. That's my experience with this device in a nutshell, and I really don't know what else to add. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask me. I've had this for years so I could probably help you. 😀
Tap water – in the end it works well and it's the cheapest option, too. Considering that I've been doing iontophoresis for many years now, I'm glad I don't have to buy a special brand of bottled water or some medicine. It would cost me a fortune by now.
I heard that some people add antiperspirant solutions to the water
Yeah, some people do this. I know some add Rubinol into water, too… Personally I was never keen on experimenting. There are days when I'm sweating profusely to the point where iontophoresis doesn't keep me completely dry, but then I apply antiperspirants directly to my sweaty palms and it's tolerable.
As a hyperhidrosis veteran, I've also known for a long time that my condition is strictly primary hyperhidrosis. I agree with you – it's best to consult a physician as soon as heavy sweating becomes a noticeable hindrance. Apart from giving your mind a rest, a doctor can also give you a prescription for antiperspirants, an iontophoresis machine, and so on.
Similar to Twinkle, I have a combination of palmar hyperhidrosis and plantar hyperhidrosis. Also, my armpits stay perfectly dry only when I use over the counter antiperspirants, so maybe my armpits also sweat too much. I agree that it's not so rare to have overactive sweat glands in more than one spot.
Well excuse me for barging into your little boys’ club, but what’s the difference between antiperspirants for men and antiperspirants for women?
I get it. This is directed at me since I'm the one who started the topic. Well, it wasn't my intention to be sexist and I'm sorry if it appeared that way.
In my experience (and as you probably know), many manufacturers really dub their antiperspirants “for men” or “for women”. However, you're right, I sort of believe antiperspirants that are supposed to offer a good hyperhidrosis treatment can be more or less unisex.
Very good stuff, thanks for sharing. Most of this I already know, though frankly I have never cleaned electrodes that thoroughly. Ah, it's never too late to start..!
Also, from these listed points it is clear why stainless steel electrodes have a reputation that they are much easier to clean. 😆 I will make sure to keep that in mind when buying a new iontophoresis device.